A Change of Guard

សូមស្តាប់វិទ្យុសង្គ្រោះជាតិ Please read more Khmer news and listen to CNRP Radio at National Rescue Party. សូមស្តាប់វីទ្យុខ្មែរប៉ុស្តិ៍/Khmer Post Radio.
Follow Khmerization on Facebook/តាមដានខ្មែរូបនីយកម្មតាម Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/khmerization.khmerican

Wednesday 16 May 2012

Thailand would crush Cambodia in less than a week, like what American troops did in Iraq and Afghanistan

Re: Cambodian army no match for Thai army  

Anonymous said...

It is true that Cambodia has the determination to fight, but with Thailand outnumbering us in everything, from troop numbers to weaponry, especially air power, I don't see how our strong determination can hold on to the onslaught of Thai air power if full scale war breaks out.

Thai troops outnumbered Cambodian troops 3 to1 and the weapons, the tanks (over 1000), the artillery, the air force (about 300 fighter jets, mainly F-16s), helicopters (about over 1000), strong navy (Thailand got many warships and one aircraft carrier, better than Russia, Canada, Italy and other big economic powers which didn't have one) and the sophisticated communication and intelligence systems, well trained and provided by America, would just make it so easy for Thailand to crush Cambodia in less than a week.

In term of Cambodia's military capability, I would say that we are no match with Thailand's well trained and well-equipped army.

We have about 140,000 poorly-trained and poorly-equipped army. And mainly most of the well-trained and well-equipped soldiers are Hun Sen's bodyguards who are stationed around Hun Sen's compounds and main cities to protect Hun Sen's power, not stationing along the border to defend Cambodia's territorial integrity.

We have no warplane, a few small navy vessels bought from China, less than 200 BM-21 rocket launchers, reportedly bought from Vietnam, a few old helicopters, may be about 200-300 tanks.

Based on the above comparisons, I think Thai troops would just drive in, no need to fight on the ground because their superior air powers would just destroy Cambodian troops from the air along the way as they move in, like what American troops did in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Despite saying this, I would still say that our troops would fight to protect our territory with bravery and with their life.
14 May 2012 9:41 AM

------------------------- 
If the U.S could not break the Khmer Rouge forces, then Thailand could never break the present Phnom Penh forces

Anonymous said... 


I don't believe Thailand can take over Cambodia that easy. Just look at the way they fought around the border. They had used all kinds of Special Forces and they did not accomplish anything. Their troops lack of experiences and their command lack of leadership skills (art of the general). Their artilleries were not affective. They had fired more than twenty thousand rounds, including the use cluster bombs, but they didn't hit a single Cambodian troop. Those Cambodian troops who were killed and wounded were those who fought in a close battle. I would count out their artilleries’ effectiveness. We have not seen their Armored Division (tanks) in close battle, but I doubt that they have capability to make headway into Cambodia without great loses. I know Cambodian troops love to blow up tanks. They have so much experience with this tactical maneuver. Those tanks will be stopped on the spot.


Their air force is a lot smaller compare to the U.S during the bombardments in Cambodia in the 60’s and the 70’s. If the US could not break the Khmer Rouge forces, I very much doubt that Thailand can break Phnom Penh forces which are a lot stronger.

Again, their Naval Forces are too small compare to the U.S during the 60’s and 70’s. They are good for use in the defense, but not in the offensives.

Just before this conflict, many Western analogists believe that Thailand will beat Cambodia in a very short battle. I was laughing at them. I think they were just a bunch of lunatics. I was wondering if the Vietnam War did not spit at them on their face, at least it should be embedded in their mind.
14 May 2012 10:58 AM

------------------------------------------ 
Thailand will crush Cambodia, but Vietnam will step to help Hun Sen

Anonymous said...


Before the Thailand even ends in the ground infantry, the entire Cambodia military bases, more likely, will be decimated by the bombardment of Thai Air Force and Navy -- the aircraft carrier and a handful of submarines which are stationed nearby at the Gulf of Thailand, not miles away from the Khmer coastline. After Cambodia's military arsenals, logistic, and provisions were completely destroyed within days, Hun Sen's arm forces will eventually give up in submission of defeat before even the ground war was even initiated. If, in the scenario of a blow-out war with Thailand, Vietnam will drag in with military help backing its crony's regime, while China will pursue political maneuvers pressuring Thai to cease fire. If Cambodia is to become a geo-political battlefield between the Viet and the Thai, Khmer kingdom will face divisions and that will be the end of Cambodia.
The guerrilla warfare of "The Art of War" used by Vietcong general Vo Nguyen Giap to outwit in Vietnam War against the American in the 60's will not work well with the under-equipped and ill-trained Hen Sen's armies, unless with China's full-pledged involvements.

Lastly, the recent gonging regarding the land area surrounding the [Preah Vihear] temple from Bangkok is a repetition of the instability of Thai's internal affairs that has used the Khmer-Thai border conflicts as a pretext to distort the truth from its people, diverting their attention from their political turmoil within Thai factional politics. There will be small scale armed clashes as we've had seen in recent past, but not an all-out war.
14 May 2012 11:24 AM

------------------------------------- 
 Should Thailand decide to invade Cambodia, Cambodia will take the matter to the UN

Anonymous said...
Dear Khmers,

There will be only military clashes, no all out invasion. However, since Siem always want Angkor Wat and Preah Vihear, we must fortify these two sacred temples on the grounds and in the air.
We would be able to protect ourselves on the grounds, in the air, but it would be a challenge. We must install and deploy strong and integrated air defense systems.
Should Thailand decide to invade Cambodia, the solution would be easy. Both countries are members of the UN. Cambodia simply makes a formal request for UN to convene an EMERGENCY session.
A temporary cease fire will be imposed, and diplomacy shall begin.
Cambodia can even then prosecute those Thai leaders for war crimes in international tribunals.

On the other hand, the Viet problems are entirely different. The Hun Sen's government will NOT even go near the UN. The Viets already have their man. The Viet occupation of Cambodia is about to be completed soon. It has been a BENIGN OCCUPATION for more than 30 years already.

Therefore, we must fight Yuon the hardest. We Khmers will win the war against Yuon, if and only if KHMERS UNITE !!!

Long Live Kampucha !!!

A Khmer Patriot
14 May 2012 2:00 PM

------------------------------------------ 
 Brave Khmers are at the border defending Cambodia, NOT at Khmerization attacking other bloggers

Anonymous said...


For those who have been quick to call others “cowards” simply because they have raised the disparity between the two armies are themselves worse than a coward! WHY?
1. Their so-called “bravery” or “patriotism” only exist behind a computer screen; if they’re as patriotic as they’ve painted themselves to be, then they should be at the border defending the country and NOT at Khmerization attacking other bloggers.
2. If they think determination and experience alone will win the war, then why don’t they (bloggers who attacked others) just buy a machete and go to defend the country from the Thais?
Determination and experience alone does NOT win a war; you need capable weapons, battle strategies, and more importantly adequate and continued supplies (ammunitions and food). If we have learned anything from the Vietnam war at all, it is because the Vietcong’s supplies strategy had enabled their frontline troops to sustain their attacks on the U.S troops.
In the event of a full scale war, due to Thailand’s superiority, Cambodia may not be able to hold their advances, however, with good preparations, good strategies combined with the experience and determination to defend the country, Cambodia can win.
We are here on Khmeriztion because we are still fond of our home country; and if there is a war between Cambodia and her neighbours, I have no doubt that ALL of us will support Cambodia one way or another. So, don’t be a coward and just bark from behind a computer screen, lead by example from the frontline, will you?
15 May 2012 11:24 AM
Delete

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is in response to the first commentator who understimates the Cambodian warrior spirits and the ability to fight their enemies, and in this case the Thais. Let me briefly show just a few underdogs in the history who decided to stand up to the invaders and won the battle decisively. The Javanese stood up to the mighty Mongol invaders and won. So did the Cham troops. The American troops stood up to the mighty English troops and won their independence. The North Vietnamese stood up to the French and the American troops and won decisively. When King Sihanouk demanded Cambodia's independence from France, the French colonists said that without their protection, Cambodia would be taken over by the communists just at the blink of an eye. However, King Sihanouk said that the Cambodians would never offer their country on the platter to any invaders. They would fight to safeguard it at all cost. If I remember correctly, the earlier analysis from the Thai side clearly during the border fightings along Cambodia-Thailand borders indicated that the Thai military did not underestimate the many decades of fighting experiences of the Cambodian troopers. The Thais knew this really well because they couldn't even defend parts of their territory during the heavy fighting from the Cambodia's side in the 80's. More information is at the website called "IndoChina Database". Even the communist leadership commended highly the fighting abilities and strategies of the Cambodian troopers. So be it the Thais or Viets, the Cambodian troopers would entertain them all in hell. That fatalistic view of that commentator is so outdated because as the descendants of the once-mighty Empire, the Cambodians have always had their spines in tact and ready to send any members of their enemies to hell at any moment of war. However, history has shown the Cambodians that diplomacy is the best war weapon of all for the Cambodians to use against their immediate enemies.

Anonymous said...

From this website http://www.acig.info/, it tells that fightings between Cambodia and Thailand were never a new thing. For example, In 1964, Cambodia went to war with Thailand to protect the Preah Vihear area. Cambodia countered airspace intrusions from the Thais by deploying a detachement of MiG-17Fs to Battambang: these proved a sufficient deterrent. On 28 Auguts 1965, Cambodian AAA engaged a group of eight Thai aircraft, curriously identified as being “Skyraiders”, over the town of Pailin. In a News Conference, Sihanouk even stated that two of them had been shot down. The next focal point arose in the area of Trad, a small town on the coast of the Kong Peninsula, another contested area.

Again, in July 1977, violent fighting between the Thai Army and the Khmer Rouge erupted in the Aranyaprathet area.

So this is just a look back of the history of fighting between Cambodia and Thailand. Cambodians stood their ground each time.

Anonymous said...

LoL..despite the fierce spirits Khmer people had like you all are saying.They still lost to themselves. Khmer Rouge taking over the mighty RCAF.

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Anonymous said...

Phnom Penh would be destroyed in just one day by the thai air power and Koh Kong will be bombarded from sea by their warship. once they have eliminated their target ground troop will be moving in. trust me, thai strategy will be like an american.

Anonymous said...

Thailand can't evn crush the car bombs killing Thai, the children of a war crime loser Phibun go dying under the Jap's ass so don't even think of crushing Cambodia. Cambodia will crush Thailand and name another Cambodia province Thai Reap. LOL

Anonymous said...

10:46 you either Thai lady boys or dumb so call Khmer. Those Thai bitches only good shooting unarm and dummy targets. They are the son of a thousands white guys. Whores country.

Idiot don't compare yourself to Uncle Sam's military, you not even come remotely close to her training and capability. American peoples are far more braved and intelligences. Idiot American sell those Siam third rate weapons even F-16A. Theses older models fighter can be shot down by most modern MANPAD from China. Khmer had a lot of these FN-16 MANPAD from PRC lately. Research asshole.
As for your ground troops they are cowards, Have you saw yutube of Khmer troops chasing those black clads Thai out of their position without even firing a shot ? Your military are corrupted even more than Khmer.

HOW MANY YEARS NOW THAT THAI TRYING TO RETAKE 4.6 SQ. KM ? Think about Cambodia about 70,000 SQ. KM and full of angry Khmers. You can't even deal with a few Muslim in your southern border and now you want to take on whole Exoerienced, battle harden Khmer Army who are far more equipped than Muslim South, Laos.

As for your warship, your carrier only use Harrier jets which very slow and can be easily shot down by modern MANPAD. Do you think your frigate ship can reach that far inland Koh Kong. A lot of you lady boys Thai never know what a real war is except shooting criminals, few Muslim, unarmed neighbors illegal workers. You have know ideas what real war is like until you tastes yourself. Not like you see in the news or Hollywood. It is not pleasant believe me.

You might win the first phase of battles if war start, but from there you will wish you never start. So please let there be peace among us. Khmers don't want WAR but if you want one we will entertain you and show you how savagery war is. HOPE ICJ grand justice where it is due.

Anonymous said...

Thailand can attack us easily with the Air Craft Carrier over the Gulf of Thailand they I believe they would landing on Sihanoukville and attack us also on the Borders.

We only can Win with Guerilla Tactic.

Anonymous said...

Don't think, that Thai will attack Cambodia. Thai military needs most approvals from the Thai Government, the Thai parliament and also from their own King.
Thai military will have a lot of internal problem with the Thai King (The king has Khmer blood) the Khmer Surin and other Khmer descents live in Thailand.
These Khmer descents are not so crazy and let the Thai military attack or invade Cambodia.
Please remember, the attack or invade Cambodia is not the same as the attack on the border.

Anonymous said...

First, I am not the author you're responding to but I sense a lot of emotion instead of reasoning.

We all know Thai will not go full scale war with Cambodia. Now how many foot soldiers do Cambodia have? No one really know since we have one of the highest ghost soldiers. The General collecting extra paycheck.If Thailand commits to a full scale war we are done. Just like how Vietnam marched into Cambodia. Because someone disagree with you does not mean they are siding with the other. If you think our soldiers is so mighty, why haven't we taken back some of our land back from our neighbors?, Why didn't our soldiers push deep into Thailand during the clashes over Preah Vihear?

I am Khmer but I rather have a debate on facts so that our soldiers don't die over muscle head guys like you.

Anonymous said...

Don’t debate with Thai; they don’t know how to debate.
Thai needed to be crushed like bugs under Khmer feet and became another Khmer province Thai Reap. Think of the US why the US using the atomic bombs against Japan? Because Japan was just like Thailand, a hardheaded, stubborn, liar, cheater & aggressor.
Khmer don’t have atomic bombs like the US, but Khmer have courage from bloods crushing these Thai aggressors down to hell.

Anonymous said...

Best wishes to cambodian families, women and children. if there be a war between thailand and cambodia, it will only be small clashes and military personnels will suffer some casualty, lost of lives, broken family. Stupid thai will not go to all out war with cambodia because the coward thais will push for a dialogue if they sense that cambodia has the upper hand.

Anonymous said...

Hey first I am a well educated in U.S. with Aeronautic degree and 8 years Aircraft Line Maintenance on wide body aircrafts. I am not a muscle head but I felt very emotional when it comes to our thief neighbors ( Siam, Viets).
Thai lady boys from history they always well armed than Khmers but we still here. There had been many battles between Siam and us through centuries every time they predict we have no chance but we still hold our own. They only took our provinces because of trickery and Khmer Surine traitors.

In the 80's I was in Nong Chan camp, the Phnom Penh and Viets troops attack KPNLF forces. The Thai troops at the border ran when they saw Viet troops coming. Thai had always been cowards. This is just one factors that Khmers had advantage over them. Khmer soldier are not coward but they need to be better lead and more modern arms. Cambodia is not rich but our current stockpiles is enough to deterred them but our weapons only enough for defend not offense.

Yes our military & government many are corrupted but we still have a lot of experienced and patriotic field commanders at frontlines. Those field commanders are ex KR, CPP, KPNLF, even some from Lon Nol era. Please we must used what we got for now. Later, when wealthy we can reform and armed our forrces better. We must stick togethers because we are smaller than them. We must have confident in our boys at frontlines who put their lives at risk. Stop been anti-Hun Sen and supported him as Khmer to Khmer. Hun Sen quietly is arming our troops with T-55 PBE armor tanks, , FN-16 MANPAD SAMs, AAAs, Mortar, more munition rounds. small arm munitions, more artillery rounds, BM-21 Grads. I had seen some our special forces with night vision equipments. Our troops now have a lot more 75mm, 83mm recoil rifles. We will soon have Chinese attack helicopters, utility helicopters. Gentlemen our country are not rich it take time to build our defense up standard. ICJ please grand Cambodia justice so there will be no war.

Anonymous said...

16 NMay 2012 2:07 PM
Healthy, good and well humanity educated Khmer people are talking and thinking more about Cambodia, the love to our country Cambodia.
But stupid & idiot people are talking most of the time about Mr. Hun Sen §§§§ and again Hun Sen power. For them Mr. Hun Sen is so stupid, uneducated, low academic level, but under the Mr. Hun Sen leadership we have a lot of good and well educated young and older generation of Khmer are working hard and advising the State of Cambodia, serving the Cambodian government and of course the Khmer people.
These so called stupid people did not really know, that Mr. Hun Sen is the PM of Cambodia. The power is under the state of Cambodia und not of one man “Hun Sen strategy.”
Mr. Hun Sen did what Cambodia has to, the way to rebuild our society, our country and our proud as Khmer.
In case Mr. Sam Rainsy is the PM of Cambodia, he will have to use the same power of the state of Cambodia and will not do different as Mr. Hun Sen today did.

Anonymous said...

Cambodia is not like Irag or Afghanistan in several reasons:

1. Cambodia has many big brothers (I don't have to mention since all you guys now).

2. Cambodia has strong geography for protection against wars (Forest and Water) and the big problem is Cambodians (Khmer rouge strategies that can topple Lonol's regime is a good example.)

3. Cambodia is a hub for China influence in SE. Don't forget like Cambodia has one vote.
America has one vote as well.

4. Cambodia has many historical sites and wonders that UNESCO protect and conserve.

5. Cambodia has strong international diplomacy. Even though Thailand is a big country and potential economy, she has bad reputation in history. Usually, Thailand invaded Cambodia. Plus, Thailand rarely has a good relation with neighboring countries except Singapore.

6. Many Super powers knew Cambodia clearly. Many superpowers cannot help the invader or the loser in ICJ. The US is an example. if the US helps Thailand, it is like the US disgrace his reputation of being a father of what he is always proud of, the democracy and justice.

Anonymous said...

If Hun Sen is so stupid, why haven't you or any other politicians out smart him? Apparently you sir, is the dumb one.

Not a supporter but I like to speak the facts.

Anonymous said...

Mr. World will come to our rescue. Do you see how long it took for the Americans and U.N to step in the middle east? The U.N have not even stepped in Syria yet. Does the Americans have any political interest in small Cambodia? Cambodia is filled with so many poor people and you think they have the will to wanna fight rather just go where the food and shelters are? Cambodia can always defend itself. But the question is how long before the international countries with power step in? Don't talk as if Cambodia have the capacity to invade its neighbors. We only have enough to defend ourselves for a short time.

Anonymous said...

The only thing can destroy Cambodia is itself, not Thai or any other country. They will only come in once Cambodia has ruin itself.

Anonymous said...

@17 May 2012 12:27 AM
Cambodia lives more than 2000 years Cambodia will live longer.
Thai is a land created by a war crime evil leading millions ignorant Thai people today. Thailand is in trouble today between their own people. Thai spend so much money on military buying weapons but nothing Thai can do to get rid of the car bombs killing Thai people everyday in south.

I saw Khmer who hated Yuon but eat yuon food at youn restaurant. If you guys hate Cambodia so much just stop using Khmer name.